We speak with Jeff Gibbs, director of the new film “Planet of the Humans” (produced by Michael Moore) about why green energy won’t save the world, the need to focus on consumption, and how the environmental movement has gotten off track.
Since this interview was recorded, the film was viewed more than 8 million times and a copyright claim was filed against the film for using 4 seconds of copyrighted footage. The film has been taken off YouTube, but is now on Vimeo.
Excerpt from this Episode
[ 21:15 ] Michael [Moore] and I went to a talk at, I think, the University of Michigan in Flint and the talk was [about] if you get involved with the system to change it, does the system change or do you change?
The speaker’s feeling was it’s probably going to be you who changes. So [because Bright Greens are] getting into bed with capitalism and renewable energy, that’s why I think they’re so angry about breaking down the fantasy that you can’t have renewable energy without giant industrial processes that are destructive to the planet, and you can’t have it without capitalism… without these investment schemes… without the subsidies it would be very difficult to have.
In This Episode
- 2:05 – Jeff Gibbs Introduction
- 2:39 – Movie Philosophy
- 6:24 – Overall Perception of Planet of the Humans
- 12:43 – Addiction to Modern High-Energy Way of Life
- 18:36 – Climate Change as a Tool for Profit and Manipulation
- 21:15 – Does the System Change or Do You Change?
- 26:07 – What Are the Questions We Should Be Asking Ourselves?
- 29:15 – Fear and Hate of Nature
- 34:15 – The Trauma of Disconnection
- 39:35 – Psychology, Sociology and Stories
- 43:27 – The Rise in All Things Human
- 47:23 – Climate Change as an Existential Threat
- 52:36 – What Can People Do in a Practical Way?
- 58:47 – The World Wants to Grow Back
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The Green Flame is a Deep Green Resistance podcast offering revolutionary analysis, skill sharing, and inspiration for the movement to save the planet by any means necessary. Our hosts are Max Wilbert and Jennifer Murnan.
This episode includes two tracks, “Shi-baytz” and “Radio-daylong” from the Filipino group Katribu Collective, off their new album “The Gathering.”
Katribu Collective is the unified effort a few individuals from the Philippines playing indigenous instruments from different tribes all around the world. Their vision is to promote culture and unity. Katribu’s passion and commitment to exploring the musically rich culture of the tribes of Mindanao leads its music to fuse these elements.
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