[Green Flame] What Comes After Industrial Civilization?

[Green Flame] What Comes After Industrial Civilization?

Industrial civilization is killing the planet, and it’s not good for human beings either. But how can we live without it? We are dependent and addicted.

In this episode of The Green Flame, we ask what comes after industrial civilization and speak with Michel Jacobi, is an ecologist working in western Ukraine to preserve pastoral traditions and revive rare threatened breeds, including the ancient Carpathian water buffalo. He talks about using the animals as allies, in restoring the health of the land. Mitchel considers working with local people key to restoring the health of the land.

Michel learnt the local language from elderly people who also taught him how to breed cattle. Michel is 33 years old. He comes from Kiel, a city in northern Germany, situated near the Danish border. His parents have their own business, and his brother recently opened a factory. Michel studied forestry and ecology in Freiburg — a city near France and Switzerland — but did not want to stay and work in his own country.

— I thought that I could find ecological conditions that our ancestors shared because they don’t exist in Germany anymore. People should live closer to nature; this is what I want to demonstrate through my experience.

You can watch and listen more about the karpaten buffello here.

The second person we speak with for this episode is Lierre Keith, author of The Vegetarian Myth, Deep Green Resistance, Bright Green Lies, and more. You can find out more about Lierre’s work here. Lierre speaks about the impact of chemical fertilisers, the increase of human population and the need to face reality of the current situation.

Our song for this episode is “Wake Up Call” by Nicholas Tippins.
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[Green Flame] What Comes After Industrial Civilization?

Radical Discourse: A Critical Review of “The Shock Doctrine”

This episode of The Green Flame revolves around a group discussion ofNaomi Klein‘s 2007 book The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism. We discuss the points of the book that are on point, other areas where the book fails, and how in some ways Klein’s own analysis describes how her mainstream climate movement operates.

In this book, Klein describes the spread of neoconservatism (aka neoliberalism, in some cases), and how it has been facilitated by a deliberate strategy of “shock treatments.” The shock treatments, Klein argues, has always required dictatorship for enforcement. Also read an analysis of the book.

Our music for this episode is “Drag the Forests Down” by Foxpockets.

Green Flame on Matriarchy with Heide Goettner-Abendroth

Green Flame on Matriarchy with Heide Goettner-Abendroth

Green Flame on Matriarchy with Heide Goettner-Abendroth

This episode of the Green Flame comes to you from Germany. We interview Heide Goettner-Abendroth, philosopher and researcher on culture and society, focused on matriarchal studies.

Heide speaks about her work and offers the listener insight and knowledge into matriarchal society.Heidi has published various books on matriarchal society and culture, and has become the founding mother of Modern Matriarchal Studies. She has a PHD in Philospphy and founded The International Academy for Matriarchal Studies and Matriarchal Spirituality.

In this episode:

  • 1:28 Heide talks about her work
  • 2:45 A matriarchal society
  • 7:30 Problems with patriarchy
  • 12:00 Creation of matriarchal societies
  • 17:30 Heide describes her vision
  • 18:50 How economy and language of a matriarchal society differs
  • 27:15 How to motivate industrialized society to return to matriarchy
  • 30:35 Matriarchal societies in present day
  • 33:40 How matriarchy resists patriarchy
  • 37:00 Poems by Heide

This episode of the Green Flame includes three poems by Heide in German and English. http://www.hagia.de/en/international-academy-hagia.html https://www.goettner-abendroth.de/home/

Our song for this episode is “Grace” by Beth Quist.>http://bethquist.com/

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The Declaration On Women’s Sex-Based Rights

The Declaration On Women’s Sex-Based Rights

For this episode of the Green Flame we celebrate the United States launch of the Women’s Human Rights Campaign with WHRC U.S. co-contact Thistle Pettersen and U.S. WHRC media moderator Austin DeVille.

Our skill-share highlights the WHRC effort to offer mutual support in the face of inevitable backlash:

It is of the utmost importance strategically when you are engaged in radical political movements to anticipate and prepare for push-back and to stand in unity against it. On that note, the Women’s Human Rights Campaign USA has a special committee dedicated to lending solidarity to anyone who has received backlash for signing the declaration. This committee will promptly send a letter to the opposing party in defense of the signatory’s right to resist threats to her safety and dignity. To contact the Solidarity Committee, send an email to solidarity@womensdeclaration-usa.com

We thank Thistle for permission to include her performance Michigan aka Gender Hurts in our program.

Declaration: https://www.womensdeclaration.com/en/

WHRC: https://www.womensdeclaration.com/

The Declaration On Women’s Sex-Based Rights

“We’re Going to Be At This A While” — Hunger Strike Against Old-Growth Logging

This episode of The Green Flame features an interview with James Darling who is currently on the 8th day of a hunger strike against logging of old-growth forests in British Columbia, Canada (occupied First Nations territory). You can contact James at: (250) 816-4321, or at james0darling@gmail.com.

In this interview, James talks about why he started the hunger strike, the old-growth logging in British Columbia, the path forward for the movement, and revolutions that have used hunger strikes.

Find the press release here.

Music: “Weightless” by LiQWYD. Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0.